Yes, Tenzin and his kids being the last airbenders should not be glossed over because it shows just how extreme Amon is, since if he gets his hands on them he'll end up finishing the genocide that Fire Lord Sozin started.

I was also wondering if you could give non-benders the ability to bend with energy bending. I noticed that not all the cops that Amon captured were wearing metal bending armor, so maybe some of them are non-benders. Amon would probably try to take their bending, because he wouldn't believe that they are non-benders. It was be insanely hilarious and ironic if Amon accidentally made someone a bender like that. I also think it would be ironic if Korra went all spiritual and took away Amon's ability to energy bend and made him a firebender instead.

Iroh Jr.'s voice doesn't match his age because he looks a bit older than an angsty sixteen year old. Because I've seen humorous gifs on tumblr shipping Mako and Zuko together, I've decided that Mako/Iroh Jr. is my new troll crack-ship for the series, due to them sharing a voice actor. (Yes, people ship LOK characters with A:TLA characters for the lolz, even though none of the pairings would work without time travel. Well, except for Korra/Yue.)

I kinda want Meelo to fart-bend at Amon too, because Amon's just so super serious and creepy.

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

Oh God, someone on Tumblr just mentioned that in the Fortune Teller episode, it was predicted by the fortune teller that Katara would die quietly in her sleep after her fourth grandchild was born. 


D:


Nonononono.  There is something about the idea of Katara dying that I cannot handle.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Actually, I just looked it up on the avatar wikia and Aunt Wu's prediction was that Katara would pass away in her sleep after her THIRD GREAT-GRANDCHILD is born. So, if Aunt Wu is right, then Katara will be around for a while. We don't know if she has any grandkids besides the airkids, let alone great-grandkids. This series needs some bad ass old people to show up and kick some ass, kind of like in the Sozin's Comet finale.

Now to cheer everyone up (or I guess just us because no one's joined the forum yet) here's some amusing fanart: http://ryuuna14.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4yn7tg

Korra tries to compliment our favorite police chief. It backfires. I do like this artist's Korra fanart; a lot of it is pretty funny. Except for that angsty Tahno picture she has.

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I was so sad with what happened to Lin... :|

With just two more episodes left before the end of season 1, I wonder if by season 2, Amon will start spreading his influence outside of Republic City and establish a globe scale de-bending. That would be very crazy for him to do, but considering that he'd go so far as invading Air Temple Islands, it wouldn't be surprising if he does.

It just pisses me off so badly that he'd even think of attacking the Air Nomads, people who dedicated to a pacifist lifestyle and would never hurt another living being.

Hiraku wrote:

I was so sad with what happened to Lin... :|

With just two more episodes left before the end of season 1, I wonder if by season 2, Amon will start spreading his influence outside of Republic City and establish a globe scale de-bending. That would be very crazy for him to do, but considering that he'd go so far as invading Air Temple Islands, it wouldn't be surprising if he does.

It just pisses me off so badly that he'd even think of attacking the Air Nomads, people who dedicated to a pacifist lifestyle and would never hurt another living being.

Sorry for the double post, but because I really, really, really need for Amon to be more than a simple overzealous fascist with a crazy revenge "I am GOD" bit, and for there to be something substantial to his goals and his ideologies that will be given serious consideration in the show and by Korra I can't help but wonder if Amon's purpose in attacking the island wasn't simply to lure Korra and Tenzin back to it.  He could easily assume Tenzin, fearing for his family, would leave at least long enough to hide them, leaving the city leaderless and creating a power vacuum for him to fill, and Korra's presence in the island would keep her from defending the cities (and keep Asami away from the dangerous frontlines with the giant metal monsters).  Getting the air-benders to flee also has the benefits of taking away the threat the family represents, as Amon and his cronies obviously don't have experience fighting air-benders.

So maybe he wasn't out to eradicate the air-bending babbies.  He wanted to remove a powerful player and leave a city without leadership WITHOUT having to kill a man's family and upset his supporters.

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OnlyInThisLight wrote:

Oh God, someone on Tumblr just mentioned that in the Fortune Teller episode, it was predicted by the fortune teller that Katara would die quietly in her sleep after her fourth grandchild was born. 


D:


Nonononono.  There is something about the idea of Katara dying that I cannot handle.

Which leads me to believe Katara is some kind of Timelord or such. As of ToK she's 85, Jinora, the eldest of her grand kids (that we know of) is 10. If Bumi and his sister don't have any kids of their own then her first great grand won't show up until she's roughly 95.

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

This is what the fandom cares about?  Not how ridiculous the love triangles present gender relations or what it says that the female Avatar's series is the one that gets such romance focus....  little discussion on Amon, his origins and his ideals?  How Korra may defeat him, learn air bending and strengthen her ties with the Spirit World, over come her fear and balance what is expected of her versus becoming the Avatar she wants to be?  Bolin's struggle to assert himself as independent...Mako's need to let go, Asami's conflicting feelings towards her father?  Anything about the characters and their stories that isn't about who they will have babies with?

No?


Just gonna talk about how all the Makkorra or Masami moments made us squee.


Think I'm gonna stick to IRG for my LOK fandom needs.

I have seen some people on tumblr seriously critique how stupid the love triangles are and how there is an unfortunate implication that the series with the lead female character revolves around poorly contrived romance. Let alone a romance where the male character is always written inconsistently in the story and seems to have a white knight complex, which just seems like a messed up way of telling the audience that Korra's still female and therefore needs a male love interest to protect her. The thing is, in the last series, I ended up liking all of the canon pairings because they weren't the main plot and they were properly developed. But I hate the canon pairings in this series. (I'm okay with Tenzin/Pema, even though the back story love triangle was unnecessary and the only thing I like about it was it was kind of funny how Tenzin almost ended up spilling elaborate, personal details about his life to Korra, only to snap out of it and say,"Why am I telling you this"?) I hope that Asami dumps Mako for being so inconsiderate of her. (Because it's really lame when your brother ends up telling your girlfriend that you kissed another girl and instead of apologizing, you blame said brother. Then you try to blame said girlfriend for being mad and act like she's being irrational, even though she has every right to be pissed.) I also hope that Mako and Korra don't suddenly get together either and Korra realizes that Mako's bad boyfriend material from the way he's been treating Asami and her.

What I liked about that confrontation is that Asami is awesome and stands up for herself and she didn't blame Korra for it and try to pick a fight with her. (Because there is that only trope that women must compete over a man and that all your relationship troubles are because of another woman and there's no way that the man can ever be at fault, ever. So I like that Asami is mad at Mako for his actions and doesn't flip out on Korra and say, "Bitch, you're stealing my man!) Mako should have been the one to tell Asami about the kiss, but he didn't. Not that the kiss isn't also Korra's fault too, but you have to consider that Asami and Korra weren't even friends until episode seven and then Korra spend most of the next two episodes either fighting crime or being kidnapped. I think in situations like that, it's best for the S.O. to confess things like that.

And yet, it seems like the show is always telling us that Makorra is all that is good and right in the show, even though it sidelines the other characters and makes Korra and Mako into annoying brats. Episode 9 is a good example. It was nice that Mako cares about Korra, but he kinda went apeshit and had tunnel vision about it, and Asami had every right to call him on it. Not to mention, even though the other characters did more to help save Korra, they kind of made it seem like they didn't care that much about her. Because as we all know, a poorly contrived romance where the male lead lusts after the female lead blatantly in front of his girlfriend is what true love is and is way more important than friendships or mentor-ships.

So tl;dr Makorra and Masami do not make me squee at all. I used to like Masami way back in episode four, but now I don't. In terms of shipping, I get more squee out of non-canon pairings that will never happen because America is homophobic and there's no way we'd even have a canon gay couple on a Y-7 show.

And I will also squee over how good Asami is at fighting and that we actually saw a battle where Korra was using waterbending. YAY!



Now to talk about bending removal. I know you guys mentioned energy bending as a way to restore bending and I think it's possible. However, it has never been brought up in show as a possibility. So for now, that means that bending removal is permanent in the minds of everyone on the show. I think they should have explored the psychological affects of removing bending too. Tahno would have been a great way to do that, since he looks pretty psychologically damaged when Korra meets him at the police station. It seems that bending is at least partially spiritual, so maybe Amon removes a bit of your soul when he takes your bending. Like I said, I think that it would have been nice if they kept Tahno around and used him to explore some of the psychological effects of bending removal. Plus, there would be interesting group dynamics. Korra seems to have forgiven him, mostly out of sympathy. Would Mako and Bolin forgive him? Would they be uncomfortable around him because he represents a stark reminder of what could happen to them and what almost happened to Bolin at that rally? Would other benders outside of Team Avatar be uncomfortable around Tahno because of that? Would Asami befriend him and teach him how to kick ass like a non-bender? How would non-benders feel about Tahno? Would Tahno and Asami share beauty tips? (Okay, that one is a little silly. But if LOK had more airtime and they did feature an Asami/Tahno friendship, it would be a cute way for them to bond. Kind of like when Katara and Toph went to the spa together.)

Oh and based on the trailers, it seems like Amon is going to round up all benders and take their bending, regardless of whether or not they actually use their powers and societal privilege to oppress non-benders. So he's not just going after criminals and jerks who cheat at a pro-bending match.

With tumblr, I don't really do any tag searches for the entire series because it's just a wall. I usually just search for a specific character or pairing. (I wish all fandoms had portmanteau couple names like LOK and A:TLA because it makes it so much easier to find material on tumblr of that rare ship that only you and maybe five other people like.) The discussion stuff is usually just things I've randomly bumped into, so I can direct you to a few of those posts. First of all, there's this tumblr: http://fuck-mako.tumblr.com/

I know it looks like a hate/troll blog, but I ended up reading through it and the person running it makes a lot of valid points about why s/he dislikes Mako and why the love triangle business is so ridiculous. I don't agree with everything s/he says, but at least it seems like this person is trying to critique certain aspects of the show (particularly Mako) and is reasonable about it. The entire tumblr is not just one person's opinion though. There are some reblogs the the person running it posts asks that s/he gets where people add in more commentary. There's also this rant about episode nine (it was written pre-episode ten): http://boxlunches.tumblr.com/post/24876 … awesome-in
I agree with most of this person's points, although I though his/her comment about Mako "hoarding girls" was worded poorly.

Most of the discussion stuff I get on their is stuff I randomly bump into, so I'm not exactly sure how to search for it. Sorry. But if I find some good commentary, I'll be sure to post it here.

I'm not familiar with that Pokemon game, but I get what you're saying about Ozai being a 2D villain. I didn't mind that to much because there were so many other well-developed characters to balance that out. And Ozai was voiced by Mark Hamill. But it would be interesting if Amon had shades of gray. And I'm hoping for more in-universe validation of the Equalists complaints being legit, although I think Korra telling Tarrlok that he was proving Amon right was a good start. I hope they develop that more.

It was awesome that Asami stood up for herself and didn't vilify Korra like you said. Yay Asami!

If Tahno was in the group, I would hope for interesting group dynamics and not more stupid romantic tension, even though I have started to like the idea of Tahno/Korra. But only if it's just them and not Tahno being a plot device to make Mako realize his true feelings and resulting in Makorra.

Yay for hairbending! No wonder his hair is fabulous. I have seen some fanarts of Korra waterbending Tahno's hair to cheer him up.


Yes, we should discuss our crack-pairings. I think my favorite ship right now is Korrasami, but at least is might become canon platonically. I have also been pairing Tahno up with Team Avatar because so much hurt-comfort potential. (Yeah, I read way too many depressing fanfics about Tahno after he lost his bending. Clearly I need help.)

I kinda ship Korra/Everyone, even if Mako's been annoying me lately. I haven't thought about Amon/Everyone and Bolin/Everyone but go for it. Keep up with the crack-ships everyone. Even if they're not canon, that doesn't mean they can't be fun or even have depth and be thought provoking.

I vote we share some of out favorite fanworks. Here's one I like where Amon, under the pseudo-name "Li" ends up meeting Korra when she's a little girl. The end up going penguin-sledding together. But it's not like it's just a fluffy fanfic; it explores how Amon meeting Korra as a child and knowing she was the avatar shaped his beliefs. I wouldn't say it's a dark fic, but there is some interesting character development. Link: http://ficbending.livejournal.com/578.h … 098#t44098

WARNING: I am posting a link to the Korra fanfiction meme. This story I'm linking to has nothing explicit in it, but if you go off exploring this place, I should warn you that it is a combination of a fanficion meme and a kink meme In other words, there is some porn on this livejournal account and it should go without saying that some of the prompts on this fic meme are more disturbing than others. So treed cautiously if you want to look around.

Sorry about you never leaving the house. My bad. I happened to discover that meme early last May and while there were only half as many prompts, it was also the weekend before finales week. (But I ended up going okay. I got a "C" in my physical chemistry class, but "A's" in everything else. Plus physical chemistry is like quantum mechanics, so I was already having trouble with it. Plus, there were only a handful of people with "A's" or "B's" in that class. And my GPA was slightly above 3.5, so I got on the Dean's List.)

I like your ideas about Amon being Koh or being in league with him. I also think that Amon being Yakone is a possibility too because it would explain the resisting bloodbending thing. And in the preview trailers for the finale, it kinda looks like Korra and Mako are being blood-bent (even though that could just be the camera angle.) Why Amon would take Tarrlok's bending if he is in fact Yakone is a mystery, but it's not as though there are no dysfunctional families in the Avatar universe.

Nice text wall! I think that would be interesting, just because Bolin defecting to the Equalist side would be very unexpected. Or maybe something along the lines of the Amolin relationship resulting in an semi-stable peace agreement between the Equalists and Team Avatar. I don't even know. Or they could become mask buddies like this: http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii14 … amolin.jpg

I've seen a wide variety of Amolin fanart and some of it is pretty funny. (I'm referring to the Amolin as crack pairing art, not the extreme non-con art.) I can post more links if you want.

I'm kind of on board the Korrasami thing because of pretty fanart and episode seven started getting me even more into it. And then I began following the Korrasami blogs on tumblr. I actually shipped Korralin before the series started and still do. (I felt a little bad when I found out how old Lin was, but then I was all like, "Whatever, I ship what I want and it is a crackship.") I guess I like cop/nemesis pairings where the nemesis actually isn't a bad guy (or girl) but just causes a lot of collateral damage while being heroic.

I will find some lesbian subtext in this show if it kills me.

I'm a big pervert too!

Oh, and I've decided to ship Iroh II/Honor for now, because Honor has been a consort of the Fire Nation royal family since 5ever.

I think that Bolin is the woobie because we see a lot more angst from him than from Mako in canon. Yes, we saw some Mako angst when he mentioned him and Bolin being orphans and that he "always finds a way" to take care of him and his brother, but you got to consider that we get way more angst from Bolin. Bolin was kidnapped by the Equalists, almost lost his bending, and admitted to Korra that he was having plenty of nightmares about it.

Not to mention, I think the fact that Mako's been a jerkbender lately without his angsty side has gotten him on the bad side with much of the fandom. (But we've already talked about why he pisses me off right now.) And yes, he was worried about Korra in episode nine, he ended up being a jerk to Asami and just flailed around in RAGE MODE the entire time, so it was very hard to feel bad for him.

I think that episode five made Bolin into the woobie too because Mako and Korra ended up hurting his feelings pretty bad.
Even though Bolin may not be bishi attractive like Mako, he certainly is cute and hug-able.

That being said, it is true that many people exaggerate Bolin's woobie tenancies to the point of ridiculousness and bad characterization. He also isn't the only woobie in the show. Asami qualifies as this post-episode seven and some people even view Korra as this sometimes, especially at the end of episode four and during episode eight where Tarrlok being Tarrlok and her trouble with airbending makes her think she's the worst avatar ever.

Then of course, Tahno got a big fan-following because he might have been a jerk, but at least he was pretty damn entertaining and he's basically a woobie after what happened in episode six.

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

Asami... woobied..   D:


NO FANDOM.  NO. BAD.

Well, it seems more like people just feel bad for her rather than them taking it to extreme levels for the most part, so it's not that extreme. So, I guess badass woobie is what it's called maybe? There is the angsty Asami meme, but that mostly just pokes fun at the concept.

@Crystalline_Dream

Yeah, I hope that the bring Tahno back because for the short time he was on screen he did get some decent character development. (It might have had something to do with him not being involved in a stupid love square that is overtaking the plot.)

I always thought that the Wolfbats cheating in the finale was a little fishy. Even if Amon had nothing to do with it, I doubt that they cheat all that often, otherwise Mako and Bolin would've know that Pro-Bending was a scam and they wouldn't have had such high hopes for winning it. Not to mention, Mako and Bolin were surprised at the cheating. So, the Wolfbats probably don't cheat that often, or if they do, they don't do it so blatantly. (Because if Amon hadn't started a riot, someone else would've.)

Like you said, taking away the Wolfbat's bending fits well into Amon's speech about benders abusing their power. Plus, we know from episode four that Amon's "saving Korra for last", so things would not have worked out so well if the Fire Ferrets had won. He would have had to fish the Wolfbats out of the water and then his speech about benders abusing their power to cheat and win wouldn't have worked.

A while ago, there were some fake episode title leaks, including one saying that episode nine was called "Tahno's Love Triad". Now we know that's not the real title, but I wonder what an episode with that title would be about. (Probably a Wolfbats threesome...)

Here's a link to the "leaked" titles. None of them are real, except that episode 11 is actually called Skeletons in the Closet.

http://pencilpaperpassion.tumblr.com/po … eaked-nick

But there's still hope that Tahno will show up in the season finale. One possible scenario to him helping Korra out is this:
http://demonpyromaniac.tumblr.com/post/ … gang-tahno

Also, more crazy Amon theory!  Amon is the Avatar.  Part of the Avatar spirit went to Korra, namely the physical aspect.  The spiritual aspect went to Amon.  So while Korra may have a little talent at connecting with her past lives spiritually, Amon is more of an actual bridge to the spirit world.  And while Amon may have energybending and can show resistance to some forms of bending, such as blood-bending, it is Korra who can manipulate the elements.  Balance will be restored when the two of them are no longer in conflict.

(Do they ever make it clear how the reincarnation cycle works?  Like, is each Avatar their own separate soul, personality and memories, just all with the ability to bend every element and a sort of spiritual facebook link to all the past Avatars, or is it truly the same soul reincarnating into a new personality each time?  And is the new Avatar born immediately after the previous Avatar passes?  Or can there be gaps in time, possibly years, before the new Avatar is born?)