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#1 | Back to Top11-15-2009 01:47:51 PM
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What pisses you off the most in SKU?
If there's already a topic like this one that I'm not seeing, sorry. 
If so, you can delete this one. 
Anyways, what pisses me off the most is how Touga always shows up out of fucking nowhere to save the day in the nick of time. I rewatched episodes 1-9 recently and noticed how he was always just there, when nobody asked him to be there, and nobody noticed his presence until he said something.
How 'bout you?
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#2 | Back to Top11-15-2009 05:04:17 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
Ugh, nothing pisses me off more than the way Touga treats his friends and family. He's just like, "La-de-dum-dee-doo, I think I'll stab my best friend and baby sister in the back today, and then take somebody's virginity." I couldn't stand it when he was all over Keiko in the rose garden. Good Lord Touga, why didn't you just ask Nanami where she wanted the salt rubbed in?
The Tatsuya/Wakaba/Saionji love triangle also drives me crazy. I wanted to shake Wakaba and Saionji and scream, "There's somebody much nicer out there who already loves you, you idiot!"
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#3 | Back to Top11-15-2009 08:08:01 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
I hate that the majority of the cast pretty much ignores chu-chu and let's him do whatever he wants... I wish a monkey would try to hop on my antique record player... I'd kill him >_< So what if he's cute, Naughty Monkeys should get what's coming to them.
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#4 | Back to Top11-15-2009 09:23:00 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
LONG-HAIRED CHARACTERS NOT PULLING THEIR HAIR BACK WHEN DUELING. VERY CARELESS.
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#5 | Back to Top11-16-2009 12:04:02 AM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
I got very pissed when Akio interrupted Utena and Anthy in the beginning of ep 35. Utena was about to say something but she was cut short by none other than Akio the prick (sorry Akio lovers) Generally, I want to see more of her interaction with Anthy too, since Anthy's reaction to Utena always amuses me.
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#6 | Back to Top11-16-2009 03:51:19 AM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
Almost nothing pisses me off - well, except the endless stock footage of Utena climbing the stairs and repeating the same song (DESTINY APOCALYPSE ULTIMATE!) and the fact that Utena doesn't realise that Akio/Anthy were tricking her until it was too late. 
In lumine tuo, videbimus amor ('In your light, we shall love') Slippy slippery mambo~ everyone at Ohtori is in some kind of spiritual land, created by Goddess Anthy and her brother Akio?!
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#7 | Back to Top11-16-2009 02:03:53 PM
Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
OnlyInThisLight wrote:
LONG-HAIRED CHARACTERS NOT PULLING THEIR HAIR BACK WHEN DUELING. VERY CARELESS.
Or worse, Touga bothering to tie his hair back when he practices kendo, but leaving THE HAIR MOST LIKELY TO GET IN HIS FACE.
Durr! 
(I know, anime logic.) My biggest complaint would be the shoddy animation. I realize the budget got slim but there's no excuse for spending the Apocalypse Arc having dyslexic monkeys drawing the male cast. 
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
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#8 | Back to Top11-16-2009 02:43:33 PM
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NO ONE ON THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS THE CONCEPT OF SWORDS.
Most swords used through the series consist of two separate blades brought together at an angle; you would not be able to see your reflection in it! Even if this reflection was somehow possible, the image would not look like this! Or this, or this, or this!
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#9 | Back to Top11-16-2009 03:02:26 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
Giovanna wrote:
OnlyInThisLight wrote:
LONG-HAIRED CHARACTERS NOT PULLING THEIR HAIR BACK WHEN DUELING. VERY CARELESS.
Or worse, Touga bothering to tie his hair back when he practices kendo, but leaving THE HAIR MOST LIKELY TO GET IN HIS FACE.
And Akio wears his hair back only when he's NOT dueling. In his case, though, it may be in order to parallel duels to sex.
Wait.
Now I get it.
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#10 | Back to Top11-16-2009 03:06:56 PM
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Yeah, he keeps his hair up when he fucks, and really that's the more important kind of dueling for him, no?
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
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#11 | Back to Top11-16-2009 03:25:53 PM
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We all know that for Touga and Akio, their favourite duelling weapon is the Pork Sword.
Dor me, its the excessive stock footage and QUALITY screenart that annoys me the most.
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#12 | Back to Top11-16-2009 03:34:05 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
The dub. Some of the characters are awesome, and some of them are just so-so, and some of them are awful. I wish it would have been more consistently good.
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#13 | Back to Top11-16-2009 04:24:04 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
hollow_rose wrote:
The dub. Some of the characters are awesome, and some of them are just so-so, and some of them are awful. I wish it would have been more consistently good.
I concur.
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#14 | Back to Top11-16-2009 05:45:11 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
Another thing that pisses me off is how Touga thinks he's so great that he thought that even Nanami, who, for her entire life, thought of him as a big brother and nothing more, wanted to have sex with him.
DICK.
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#15 | Back to Top11-16-2009 10:27:32 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
It wasn't longer.
I felt Shiori, Kanae, and Kozue could have used a little more air time. I wouldn't say it pisses me off just...annoying. The BRS was excellent save for LOL WE ALL FORGETz. .___.
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#16 | Back to Top11-17-2009 02:10:47 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
Something about Utena's affair with Akio annoys me. I mean, she doesn't suspect him at all in being behind the duels? Sure, she knows later, but not at first. Of course, she's supposed to be naive and all that, but still.
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#17 | Back to Top11-17-2009 04:06:39 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
oscarthewild wrote:
Something about Utena's affair with Akio annoys me. I mean, she doesn't suspect him at all in being behind the duels? Sure, she knows later, but not at first. Of course, she's supposed to be naive and all that, but still.
One word: Denial. Plus that she's 14-year old girl with a crush against a man who pretty much lives from emotional manipulation. It's so obvious from an external perspective, which is obviously why we find it so annoying, but it's sadly not unbelievable.
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#18 | Back to Top11-17-2009 09:26:07 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
Animation interns. >:[
It's like they brought some guy and and were like
Animator: Okay, all the animators are busy working on other scenes. The character has red hair. Aaaaaand GO!
Intern: But I -
Animator: I SAID GO!
Intern: :[!!!!
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#19 | Back to Top11-17-2009 09:45:02 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
^ That.
[edit:]
Also, Chiho Saito. I do not like her.
Mostly because she seems to have NO IDEA what a crotch is exactly.
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#20 | Back to Top11-17-2009 11:04:39 PM
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Not a big fan of Chiho myself. Sometimes her art is pretty, and sometimes her art is like WTF terrible. And her storytelling is awful. Or, well, not to my tastes.
Actually. We'll pretty much say the manga for me. All the cliche and genericness of a shoujo title, with none of SKU's irony.
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#21 | Back to Top11-18-2009 08:08:04 AM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
This scene
http://www.ohtori.nu/galerie/v/series/e … 4.jpg.html
http://www.ohtori.nu/galerie/v/series/e … 5.jpg.html
I thought Juri is going to kiss Utena, but insted she went mad. Just imagine, Juri kissing shocked Utena, and then geting her slowely undressed: "s sempai, what.. what are you doing?!" /\/\
Oh yeah, and people slaping Anthy whenever they whant it, and Anthy being so inert about it.
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#22 | Back to Top11-18-2009 03:24:59 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
allegoriest wrote:
Mostly because she seems to have NO IDEA what a crotch is exactly.
Oh god yeah that crotch. I'm always so confused when I see that picture.
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#23 | Back to Top11-18-2009 03:38:02 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
It seriously bugs me that all of the female cast are supposed to be in their early, budding teen years and they flounce about with perfect, 25-year-old boobs and enviable hourglass figures and shit. And have freaky-weird pubescent sex [cough, Kozue] without anyone seeming to care about statutory rape charges. I dunno, maybe I'm the crazy one, but it drives me insane.
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#24 | Back to Top11-18-2009 05:56:27 PM
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And dude, Nanami is 13 and look at that fucking figure. No wonder she and the rest of the female cast have problems concerning sexuality and growing up.
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#25 | Back to Top11-18-2009 06:56:00 PM
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Re: What pisses you off the most in SKU?
OnlyInThisLight wrote:
And dude, Nanami is 13 and look at that fucking figure. No wonder she and the rest of the female cast have problems concerning sexuality and growing up.
Yeah, it's a little ridiculous. The fact that most of them are in middle/high school is kinda crazy too. I feel like it would fit a lot more if they were in their early twenties, and they were in college or something. That way it wouldn't be like weird for Kozue, etc, to be such a slut and Utena wouldn't be an innocent 14-year-old sleeping with an engaged 20-something-year-old. But that's just my opinion.
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