Trick question. With Akio, purely controlling is pleasure.

Of course Akio is able to manipulate you by getting into your pants~
but that aside, can one say sleeping with Anthy is not a pleasurable thing in itself??

Last edited by Itsuke (12-15-2008 07:26:33 AM)

I think he'd get off on Anthy's pain. And the swords pierce only her no matter how they're sticking out (somehow, wow, isn't that mysterious and unexplained like so many SKU things heh heh) so he doesn't have to worry about it.

And I reckon he presses down harder just to make it hurt more, because that gives him more sadistic pleasure. After all he seemed to have a pretty good time "not noticing" Utena's pain and confusion.

He gets off on people being under his thumb, like Hedge said. So much evil pleasure...

Hedgehogey wrote:

Trick question. With Akio, purely controlling is pleasure.

omg you stole my thoughts right out of my head. how startling!

Last edited by MissKosmic (12-15-2008 04:26:20 PM)

Don't you think he'd get tired of balancing so many manipulated lovers, though? It's gotta be hard to convince so many people that they're the only ones he cares about.

Anthy.

(Wait, that might be pain.)


I'd like to say Saionji, but he could have just wanted to make him and Touga more comfortable so Touga could have a bride and such. :\

Riri wrote: Don't you think he'd get tired of balancing so many manipulated lovers, though? It's gotta be hard to convince so many people that they're the only ones he cares about.

I see what you're saying, Riri, good thought.

However imo Akio doesn't really bother to make his lovers feel cared for. Or even like they are the only ones. He lets them feel guilty (Utena re Kanae), or avoids them (Kanae), or boasts of his other conquests (Touga re Utena), or f's them with both parties enjoying the illicit knowledge that he should be with someone else (Mrs Ohtori re Kanae), or waits for other parties to walk into the room (Tokiko re Nemuro), or deliberately meets up in front of other parties (Kozue re Nanami), or does it with multiple parties at the same time (Touga & Saionji), or does it with their full knowledge that he is sleeping with multiple partners and can they manipulate more people into sleeping with him too please (Anthy).

Mock wrote: Personally I think Akio is like Light Yagami from Death Note, he only has sex as a means of been able to manipulate people better, any fun he has is pure gravy.

Hmm. *turns thought over* I reckon Light is a bit more asexual...he really doesn't seem interested in sex in any way excepting manipulation.

Akio however seems to enjoy it. He's much more sensual, and fully exercising/flaunting his sexuality at every opportunity. He seems to look for opportunities to use sex for manipulation. Whereas Light seems reluctant to have sex, even when he has to for manipulative purposes.

Plus Akio is getting a LOT more sex than Light is. From a LOT more people.

Arki wrote: Someone might feel neglected by him whenever out of his presence, but as soon as he's in near proximity, he has the ability to just charm away any doubts the character had. At least for a short while.

But is his particular brand of charm (as in making them feel hot enough to drop their socks) the same as making them feel cared about? Isn't there a subtle difference? *enjoys debate*

On another silly note, there's no suggestion Akio ever slept with Kanae. emot-frown emot-rofl

I for one feel sorry for Kanae. She's probably still a virgin! For Akio's fiance, that's aPALLing!
Poor sweetly-smiling (sexually repressed) Kanae. All she ever gets is Akio's arm around her shoulders, and even that's for the benefit of the watching Utena. Oh and she got some hand-feeding too. I suppose that was pretty hot. In a way...

sharnii wrote:

But is his particular brand of charm (as in making them feel hot enough to drop their socks) the same as making them feel cared about?

Well, I'd like to think Akio has a way of manipulating individuals by playing on what they're weak on, making them believe that having sex with him (or in other words falling under his influence) will somehow bring some kind of benefit to their goals. An example of this could be Touga, which strives for power. And who has more power than Akio? Or Himemiya, who is somehow convinced there is no other way to live than the way she currently does. It is at the end of the series she realizes it's not the case and does the extremely banal thing of simply packing her bags and leaving.

Because it really was that simple, but changing your own beliefs and convictions is very difficult. And it is Akio who manipulates people to believe something that isn't so, just for his personal goals. Which is what I find very appealing in him, because it's so much more sexy than an inhumane power of just making everyone drop like fleas onto their knees.

Hmm. Perhaps it's not really a matter of caring for a character. I doubt Touga is really in it for the love.

A very perfect and interesting point, Gio. It would explain a lot of his conflict over Anthy. You noted before how much he attempts to dominate and diminish her. Especially given his tears in the end, it's to degrade his own mixed passionate feelings for her that he can't fully come to terms with. Now these feelings I wouldn't equate with caring for her so much as needing her. Needing her to reinforce his image of himself - which Anthy carefully undermines.

It's strategy, but there's a definite psychological basis for it. Oh. Oh. So I've always asked why Akio pursues the End of the World. Now I think I have it. Akio uses it as an excuse, pretty much. He needs justification for his actions. Ooooh. *goes off to think*

Thank you, Gio!

Did Akio seduce anyone purely for sexual pleasure?
No. He cannot achieve the goal without someone's humilation or sth like that. Just like some rapists - they do not rape in order to satisfy themselves but to make someone suffer or to humilate somebody.

Did Akio seduce anyone for pleasure?
Hell, yes! He's Valmont, he could peak if he saw a slave asking for his touch on his knees. (Begging on knees, not touching knees.)
His cruelty and human sorrow arouse him. Perfect kink, his queerness is almost invisible, hidden in his mind.

Edit:Now I wonder - has he ever lost control over himself? Or over his passion? He may be a devil, but he isn't a robot for sure.

Last edited by dlaire (12-26-2008 10:47:13 AM)

sharnii wrote:

And I reckon he presses down harder just to make it hurt more,

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So much evil pleasure...