This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)
#52 | Back to Top12-05-2007 02:50:52 PM
- ShatteredMirror
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Re: The TRUE lessons of SKU
Everything is about sex. Everything.
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source.
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#54 | Back to Top12-05-2007 04:35:22 PM
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Re: The TRUE lessons of SKU
If everything is built around sex, then I shudder to think of some of the symbolism in the series. For example, Touga eating the Nanami-cow. Nanami-cow in the first place. Tsuwabuki and his two swords (he may not be a stud now, but just wait!). And I have to wonder if Anthy in Utena's body skipped off to fool around with her brother for a while.
Come to think of it, she probably did and gave Akio the chance to grope around some and take some pictures to save for later.
"You said you would do anything for me, right Mamiya?" Mikage purred as he slithered close. "Yes that's right" Mamiya said with a rosey blush. Mikage's smile was evil and cinister as he reached into his pocket and pulled out a banana. "Eeny meeny myny moo. I wonder where my banana will go?" - The Forbidden Passions of Nemuro
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#55 | Back to Top12-07-2007 03:51:43 AM
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Re: The TRUE lessons of SKU
I wrote:
Everything is a metaphor. Everything.
ShatteredMirror wrote:
Everything is about sex. Everything.
Everything is a metaphor about sex.
Or!
Sex is a metaphor about everything.
...Probably both. 
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#56 | Back to Top12-07-2007 04:37:55 AM
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That setting up your big brother as the ideal that no other man can hope to match will end up fucking up the way you live out the rest of your life... just ask Kozue, Nanami and especially Anthy.
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#57 | Back to Top12-07-2007 10:59:03 AM
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Re: The TRUE lessons of SKU
Jellineck wrote:
I have to wonder if Anthy in Utena's body skipped off to fool around with her brother for a while.
Don't believe your doctors when they say the walking talking shadows are just apart of your imagination. They're alive dammit, and they talk about giant mouse eating cats and spaceships and tyres that you can eat!
EDIT:
Die alone or let your friends think you're alone.
I mean it, if you are friends with someone, hide it, don't let them know, all friendships end up in you being stabbed in the back physically, i.e Touga and Saionji, Utena and Anthy, or metaphorically, i.e Juri and Shiori.
(the only healthy friendship in the whole thing was Juri and Miki and they never said the words 'we are friends', ever.
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#58 | Back to Top12-07-2007 03:48:27 PM
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Everyone at Ohtori is in fact dead!
(Except maybe for Tokiko.)
Everyones souls are stuck in some kind of spiritual wasteland, created by the Mother/Sister Goddess Anthy and her Son/Brother Akio.
Remember the flashback? Remember when Utena was hiding in her coffin? She wasn't hiding at all, she really was dead. It could be argued that the Utena Movie lends support to this theory as Touga was actually dead but still doing stuff. The fact that time and memories seem to come and go might be offered as further proof that the cast are really spirits floating around in an illusion.
BTW have you noticed that the campus kinda looks like a cross between a keyhole and a funeral plot?
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#61 | Back to Top12-07-2007 05:26:45 PM
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I think we talked about it in The Secret Designer of Ohtori
Sskessa wrote:
Sevelle wrote:
Giovanna wrote:
I could swear someone told me once that the school is built to imitate ancient Japanese burial grounds or something, but I never really did my homework on it...
I've read that some where aswell, but I think it was the fact it sat up on a hill, though I could be totally wrong.
Oh, this sounds familiar. I took a history of Japanese art course last year, I'll look it up in my book.
Ok, here is a link to the type of burial mound they were probably thinking of: http://www.hogaku.it/storia/yamato/kofun_nintoku.gif
It's called a Kofun, it's shaped like a keyhole, and it is indeed a hill, just like Ohtori is on a hill.
I don't know whether the artists were thinking of this when they designed Ohtori, but it does seem kind of similar. And similar to the Palace at Versailles, too.
And actually, I always thought the academy was kind of like a giant sex symbol, with the big phallic tower on one end and the giant bush on the other.
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#62 | Back to Top12-07-2007 10:16:55 PM
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Sskessa wrote:
Ok, here is a link to the type of burial mound they were probably thinking of: http://www.hogaku.it/storia/yamato/kofun_nintoku.gif
It's called a Kofun, it's shaped like a keyhole, and it is indeed a hill, just like Ohtori is on a hill.
I don't know whether the artists were thinking of this when they designed Ohtori, but it does seem kind of similar. And similar to the Palace at Versailles, too.
And actually, I always thought the academy was kind of like a giant sex symbol, with the big phallic tower on one end and the giant bush on the other.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention rhyaniwyn
So what I have learnt from this is that Ohtori is a giant Necropolic Academy designed with a hermaphroditic theme for living corpse puppets controlled by two Indian siblings immortals both with major personal growth issues... I knew there was a reason I love this show so much!
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#63 | Back to Top12-08-2007 01:27:05 AM
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Re: The TRUE lessons of SKU
OnionPrince wrote:
I wrote:
Everything is a metaphor. Everything.
ShatteredMirror wrote:
Everything is about sex. Everything.
Everything is a metaphor about sex.
Or!
Sex is a metaphor about everything.
...Probably both.
I'm going with both. Just because.
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source.
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#64 | Back to Top12-10-2007 02:52:19 AM
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Re: The TRUE lessons of SKU
No matter how much hair is cut off by swords, no one will ever notice!
(Anyone ever see how much hair gets cut off of Utena? She could make a mop)
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#65 | Back to Top12-11-2007 02:59:43 PM
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Re: The TRUE lessons of SKU
ShatteredMirror wrote:
OnionPrince wrote:
I wrote:
Everything is a metaphor. Everything.
ShatteredMirror wrote:
Everything is about sex. Everything.
Everything is a metaphor about sex.
Or!
Sex is a metaphor about everything.
...Probably both.I'm going with both. Just because.
Seconded ^.^
Iris wrote:
No matter how much hair is cut off by swords, no one will ever notice!
(Anyone ever see how much hair gets cut off of Utena? She could make a mop)
Utena's hair is wack altogether, one moment its down to her waist, then just like that it's just over her shoulders.
I learned that it is normal, no mandortory to wear bridal gowns to afterschool fights.
If you want to graduate, all you have to do is dye your hair pink.
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