This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)
#1 | Back to Top05-29-2011 02:26:42 AM
!!! EMPTY MOVEMENT UPDATE !!! Go read crazy Ikuhara stuff.
That's right. Instead of packing, I did this. Who wins? YOU DO. Something something voodoo, I hate that movie and Akio looks nothing like Jareth. 
Ahem. Anyway. So the site is updated! Lots of new images for the gallery as gathered on this here forums and cleaned up. Clarice's FUCKING AMAZING ESSAYS, and more. As inspired by our recent uh...affair...with J-Syxx, there is now an entire subsection of the site for interviews and commentaries by Ikuhara and his buddies. So if you want to act like you know what the creators of the show said but can't be assed to quote directly...well you suck, because I just made it very easy for you.
Also I'm tired. Goodnight. 
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
~ Professor Arisa Konno, Eng 1001 (Freshman Literature and Composition)
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#2 | Back to Top05-29-2011 04:48:04 AM
- yuzukelly
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I woke up extra early this morning, due to, cats....and the first thing i did was get on here, to find it had changed and, ITS BEAUTIFUL!! you all did a wonderful job, im loving this be-papas site, and just, everything!! 
it's very beautiful, fantastic job 
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good work#4 | Back to Top05-29-2011 09:28:50 AM
- thothptah
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The site looks amazing!! Thank you, Gio! 
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#5 | Back to Top05-29-2011 09:30:34 AM
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Update is awesome, thanks Gio! I especially love how the new front page is so brightly colored, and just a tease for when one clicks the BePapas section - awesome design! Reading through it all now!
Just remember that the things you put into your head are there forever, he said. You might want to think about that. / You forget some things, don't you? / Yes. You forget what you want to remember and you remember what you want to forget.
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#6 | Back to Top05-29-2011 10:48:51 AM
- Dani
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Gorgeous new pages. Just spent the last hour going through everything. Brilliant! Thanks for all the hard work.
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#7 | Back to Top05-29-2011 12:13:07 PM
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Whoooa 
I like the new layout. It's a lot less ominous than the last one! And the Creators section is gold. I wish I knew of interviews apart from these, so that I too could spend hours on the Wayback Machine looking for archived copies to contribute Thank you for whatever combination of love for the show, love for the fans, and obsessive-compulsive disorder led to your making this!
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#9 | Back to Top05-29-2011 04:08:37 PM
- Calamity
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Dear Gio,
ILY for the alt text on the new layout.
I'll miss the old design cause I really did love that picture of Anthy but this one is quite fab as well! Thank you for your hard work.
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#10 | Back to Top05-29-2011 05:36:31 PM
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Leeg wrote:
Audiology and Vector links are broken, seem to have double "http://".
Oop! Fixed! Sorry about that, coding the front page is always done near the home stretch when I'm tired. Also, my mom's trunk top fell on my head yesterday and I've been seeing stars since. 
Glad everyone's enjoying!
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
~ Professor Arisa Konno, Eng 1001 (Freshman Literature and Composition)
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#11 | Back to Top05-29-2011 07:02:12 PM
- Koshernova
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Great job!! I'm still thrawling through all the new stuff. I love the new frontpage, the big-ass interview section, and the new art
Fun note: Back in the 90s in Argentina we heard a rumour that there was a butchered version of Utena doing the rounds in central america, and that if Utena came to our TVs (back then TV being, of course, the main way to see new anime in south america) we'd get that version. That is none other than the Ursula's Kiss version that is linked in the miscellaneous section of From the Mouths of Babes! Now I wanna investigate to see if this abomination (Tommy? TOMMY?) was ever made into a spanish-language dub!
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#12 | Back to Top05-29-2011 08:35:03 PM
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I know SKU was aired in...Mexico, I think. But they only aired up to episode 32.
Huh.
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
~ Professor Arisa Konno, Eng 1001 (Freshman Literature and Composition)
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#13 | Back to Top05-29-2011 11:29:10 PM
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Gio, you are the best in the universe. I am sending an trussed-up Akio to your front door right now. I absolutely adore the new site. (Well, I've been obsessed with the site for years.) I can't wait to dig through it in depth.
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#14 | Back to Top05-30-2011 12:33:52 AM
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Trussed up Akio? 
I'm moving in with Yasha this week. That'll be an excellent housewarming present.
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
~ Professor Arisa Konno, Eng 1001 (Freshman Literature and Composition)
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#15 | Back to Top05-30-2011 12:50:19 AM
- Trench Kamen
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Giovanna wrote:
Trussed up Akio?
I'm moving in with Yasha this week. That'll be an excellent housewarming present.
Does that mean I need to send Touga?
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#16 | Back to Top05-30-2011 08:20:36 AM
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Looking at the new Empty Movement layout. it's a very very happy change. I liked the skewered Anthy, too, but this one is very soft to the eyes.
Meanwhile, you should sell your car and by a red ferrari to match your Akio, and when you're at the gas station, you can take your sweet time touching his tra-la-la
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#17 | Back to Top06-05-2011 05:41:40 PM
- winksniper
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Loving this.
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#18 | Back to Top06-06-2011 06:02:09 PM
- artemis88
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the site looks so beautiful! can't wait to start reading the new material
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#19 | Back to Top06-06-2011 09:27:20 PM
- OnlyInThisLight
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Gio, Yasha, Sat, you all simply amaze me.
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#20 | Back to Top06-06-2011 09:41:30 PM
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OnlyInThisLight wrote:
Gio, Yasha, Sat, you all simply amaze me.
Gio's the one you need to thank All I did was transcribe a couple of interviews and tell Gio how awesome her layout was. Actually, I told her that it would be even more awesome if she drew a little samurai Chu Chu staving off the army of dickmonster tanks with his spear and bandanna, but there wasn't space in the layout and you can't have everything. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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#21 | Back to Top06-07-2011 03:32:26 PM
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Yeah, but the all three of you are still what has made this place possible.
And thanks to the new layout, now whenever my mom reads my laptop screen over my shoulder, she'll think I'm visiting a fluffy lesbian cartoon site as opposed to a hardcore bondage porn lesbian cartoon site. 
Something tells me this layout just barely edged out Gio's design for a 
layout, with little tear-and-something-else stains for the navigation buttons.
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#22 | Back to Top06-11-2011 09:36:32 PM
- Aelanie
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Very nice to have all the staff interviews and commentaries in one place. Thanks for doing it.
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#23 | Back to Top06-15-2011 01:10:24 AM
- Katzenklavier
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This site looks so happy. So inviting. Welcoming. Yes, come in, little guppies. Look at all the pretties, let me take your coat, don't mind the wandering hands.
We must go forward, not backward. Upward, not forward. And always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
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#24 | Back to Top07-12-2011 09:48:38 AM
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I have a chat saved with Saito (and Ikuhara in the room, but not chatting) with several Utena questions that used to be on SciFi.com, but disappeared from the 'net a while back. I glanced through the ones posted on the new subsite and I think this is one that's not there. Though you may have it.
Some excerpts in case you do have it:
MODERATOR: <Puu> The relationship between Utena and Anthy seems to differ between the anime and the manga. What did you intend their relationship to be?
CHIHO-HIME: Their relationship is probably something like husband and wife.
CHIHO-HIME: Sometimes they get along, othertimes, they fight. They are bonded by love and hatred.
MODERATOR: <Uther> what is the real age of Anthy Himemiya?
CHIHO-HIME: Uther: She must be of an age that even I'm not aware of...
CHIHO-HIME: But she was born on a leap year, so she only ages once every 3-4 years.
MODERATOR: <Clarisse> What would you say that the theme of 'Utena' is?
CHIHO-HIME: Mr. Ikuhara says, "That's a difficult question to answer"...
CHIHO-HIME: "It's about changing your personality"...
CHIHO-HIME: "That is not about changing it because you lost fighting society"...
CHIHO-HIME: "But by changing your personality"...
CHIHO-HIME: "Your world view changes."
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#25 | Back to Top07-12-2011 12:49:31 PM
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UGHRGHRWEIFG I THINK THAT'S THE ONE I WAS IN.
Send it. Please?
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
~ Professor Arisa Konno, Eng 1001 (Freshman Literature and Composition)
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